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lorijeremy
di mei 14 2013, 06:53
lorijeremy
Geregistreerde deelnemer #296
Geregistreerd: di jun 07 2011, 08:29
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Gelieve te excuseren mijn verschrikkelijke Vlaamse. Ik heb onlangs ontdekt de middelste naam van Maria Catharina Vanginderhuysen. Ze werd geboren omstreeks 1815. Haar natuurlijke zoon Joannes Josef Vanginderhuysen werd geboren 14 mei 1869 in Diest. Ik vermoed Maria Catharina was een dochter van Henri / Henricus Vanginderhuyser. Henri kan dezelfde man als Henricus Quintin Vanginderhuysen die trouwde met Anna Catharina Defour zijn geweest. Weet iemand dit gezin of als Maria is de dochter van Henri? Bedankt voor het lezen.

Please excuse my terrible Flemish. I recently discovered the middle name of Maria Catharina Vanginderhuysen. She was born about 1815. Her natural son Joannes Josef Vanginderhuysen was born 14 May 1869 in Diest. I suspect Maria Catharina was a daughter of Henri/Henricus Vanginderhuyser. Henri may have been the same man as Henricus Quintin Vanginderhuysen who married Anna Catharina Defour. Does anyone know this family or if Maria is the daughter of Henri? Thank you for reading.
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Jan Baele
zo mei 19 2013, 09:44

Geregistreerde deelnemer #3
Geregistreerd: zo mei 04 2008, 08:24
Woonplaats: Diest
berichten: 235
Dear Remy(?),
I probably can visit the archive on tuesday afternoon. I will throw an eye on your Maria Catharina Vanginderhuysen.
Jan Baele
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lorijeremy
zo mei 19 2013, 10:30
lorijeremy
Geregistreerde deelnemer #296
Geregistreerd: di jun 07 2011, 08:29
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Thanks for taking a look Jan!

I have another question about the database: When I had a full membership I was able to learn from the marriage records that:

Michael Magdalens (born 1774 died 21 Jun 1840) was listed as the father in the marriage record of his son Ludovicus Magdalens (born 1809) and his wife Maria Gertrudis Jacobs (born 1814). I was also able to discover the father of Maria Gertrudis Jacobs in the marriage records as Franciscus Jacobs (died 14 Nov 1828).

Is it possible now to learn the names of their mothers in the database?

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Jan Baele
do mei 23 2013, 11:12

Geregistreerde deelnemer #3
Geregistreerd: zo mei 04 2008, 08:24
Woonplaats: Diest
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ear lorijeremy,

I found something in the archive of Diest.

Joannes Vanginderhuyzen is born in 1839. His mother (Maria Catharina) was at that time 25 years old. So she must be born at ca 1814. -> look at photo.

I found 1 M.C.vgh born in 1819 (father = Henry, mother = A.C. Defour)
I found another M.C.vgh born 4/2/1814. father = Egide, mother = Anne Elisabeth Boonen.
There were for sure a lot of brothers/sisters, cousins ...

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Your second question:

Ludovicus Magdalens
° 01/09/1809
prof. = Barbier (Barber)
f = Michaël
m = Anna Helena Parys

X 19.08.1840

Maria Gertrudis Jacobs
° 14/03/1814
prof. = Werkvrouw ("workwoman"?)
f = Franciscus
m = Joanna Goyen

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lorijeremy
do mei 23 2013, 11:48
lorijeremy
Geregistreerde deelnemer #296
Geregistreerd: di jun 07 2011, 08:29
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Harte danke, Jan! I missed that 25 years looking at the certificate. As you have guessed my Dutch is woeful Also thank you for finding the new names and the mothers!

I have a strange situation with this Maria Catharina's grandaughter/my overgrootmoeder Maria Paulina Henrica Vanginderhuysen (geboren 29 Jun 1869, Diest). I have her birth certificate so I know her parents Joannes Josef Vanginderhuysen and Antonia Magdalens are correct. The only Antonia Magdalens I have been able to find is mentioned in a marriage record of Josephus Bernardus Edmondus Vanginderhuysen:

Familienaam Vanginderhuysen
Voornaam Josephus Bernardus Edmondus
Leeftijd Berekend 23
Leeftijd Akte
Woonplaats Diest
Burgelijke Staat
Afkomstig Van
Geslacht man
Rol bruidegom
Volgorde 2
Geboorte Jaar 1871
Overlijden Jaar 0
Referentiejaar 1894
Categorie huwelijksakte

Familienaam Magdalens
Voornaam Antonia
Leeftijd Berekend 0
Leeftijd Akte
Woonplaats
Burgelijke Staat
Afkomstig Van
Geslacht vrouw
Rol moeder bruidegom
Volgorde 4
Geboorte Jaar 0
Overlijden Jaar 1885
Referentiejaar 1894
Categorie huwelijksakte

If those records are for her brother and her mother Antonia, that would put Antonia's death date at 1885. Here is where things get extremely strange: we have family photos from 1920's-early 1930's. On the back of those photos the writing is in Danish and refer to, "your mother". If it was Henriette's mother Antonia, she should have been dead for many years. And why they would be wroting in Danish is a complete mystery We have no Danes in the family as far as anyone has ever heard of.







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lorijeremy
do mei 23 2013, 11:51
lorijeremy
Geregistreerde deelnemer #296
Geregistreerd: di jun 07 2011, 08:29
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Harte danke, Jan! I missed that 25 years looking at the certificate. As you have guessed my Dutch is woeful Also thank you for finding the new names and the mothers!

I have a strange situation with this Maria Catharina's grandaughter/my overgrootmoeder Maria Paulina Henrica Vanginderhuysen (geboren 29 Jun 1869, Diest). I have her birth certificate so I know her parents Joannes Josef Vanginderhuysen and Antonia Magdalens are correct. The only Antonia Magdalens I have been able to find is mentioned in a marriage record of Josephus Bernardus Edmondus Vanginderhuysen:

Familienaam Vanginderhuysen
Voornaam Josephus Bernardus Edmondus
Leeftijd Berekend 23
Leeftijd Akte
Woonplaats Diest
Burgelijke Staat
Afkomstig Van
Geslacht man
Rol bruidegom
Volgorde 2
Geboorte Jaar 1871
Overlijden Jaar 0
Referentiejaar 1894
Categorie huwelijksakte

Familienaam Magdalens
Voornaam Antonia
Leeftijd Berekend 0
Leeftijd Akte
Woonplaats
Burgelijke Staat
Afkomstig Van
Geslacht vrouw
Rol moeder bruidegom
Volgorde 4
Geboorte Jaar 0
Overlijden Jaar 1885
Referentiejaar 1894
Categorie huwelijksakte

If those records are for her brother and her mother Antonia, that would put Antonia's death date at 1885. Here is where things get extremely strange: we have family photos from 1920's-early 1930's. On the back of those photos the writing is in Danish and refer to, "your mother". If it was Henriette's mother Antonia, she should have been dead for many years. And why they would be wroting in Danish is a complete mystery We have no Danes in the family as far as anyone has ever heard of.







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